Boys U16 Top 20

[applecup2008]

With back to back 1-0 victiories over NWN, WPFC is in the drivers seat to win Div 1.  They have to face ECFC next week and Emerald City has had their number so far this year.  Good stuff.

WPFC was first to the ball and played very well in the games the last two weeks, outplayed NWN and took them out of their game. However week one goal scored was a missed offsides by young AR and yesterdays game was an own goal deflection by NWN defender. Well played games by WPFC who likely deserved to win. State Cup is a different animal. It will be fun to see who peaks at the end!

I would like to see NWN and WPFC in the State Cup Finals next year.  These two teams play with a lot of heart.  A great matchup for fans of the game to watch. 

No excuses for all the shots on goal WPFC missed in the first game, or the clear shot taken directly at the goalie when he is on the ground in the second game.  Even though WPFC won both games, I believe both teams are evenly matched and the outcome could change in each game. 

[gr8cgar]

Off the PDL site :
If any ties exist in Division standings, the following criteria will be used for ranking those ties (except as qualified elsewhere in the PDL Rules):

RPI = 24
Head to head = Split
Best goal differential: All league games (capped)  But Capped at how many ?? where does it say or does anyone know ??
Fewest goals allowed: All league games

Only asking to figure out who came in 1st WPFC or EFC

[Gumby]

Can't hep you cgar, but gotta ask... how did you get the RPI score?

[gr8cgar]

Not really the RPI    or is it    But if all teams play each other equally then isn't this number just = to the PDL Points (last column)

http://playerdevelopmentleague.org/standings?action=summary&group=PDL;B;U13;Div1;Fall

[Dragon]

Really enjoy all the boys talk

[Quiller]

When does the promotion or relegation ceremonies commence?  Should be interesting to see if any of the big clubs can curb the relegation of one of their teams or would they even be interested in doing so. 

Hats off to WPFC and Eastside for their fall season.  Be ready for the rough and tumble GRFC team that will aiming to wreak havoc on the finishers.

[Lothar]

Why do we have to wait until Dec 6th for Crossfire vs Timbers to see how relegation is going to play out?

[applecup2008]

The Crossfire vs Timbers game should be an fun game to watch.  If you were to look at standings, both of these teams should be relegated to Division 2.       

GRFC from what I hear should be a good addition to top division, but I would be surprised if they do very well against WPFC, Eastside, and NWN.  It's fun to watch competitive teams play each other in league play.  The Crossfire McCormick team would have made this division even more competitive.


     

[Lothar]

If anyone finds out the location of the game on the 6th I may be able to check it out.

[cheersme95keep]

Off the PDL site :
If any ties exist in Division standings, the following criteria will be used for ranking those ties (except as qualified elsewhere in the PDL Rules):

RPI = 24
Head to head = Split
Best goal differential: All league games (capped)  But Capped at how many ?? where does it say or does anyone know ??
Fewest goals allowed: All league games

Only asking to figure out who came in 1st WPFC or EFC

I can see why you are wondering on that how many for capping, huh?  If it was say......5........... then that is a BIG difference!

[gr8cgar]

Bump 

[Squash]

We play a friendly against quiller this sunday I believe. 

[Squash]

We play a friendly against quiller this sunday I believe. 

Our friendly ended 3-1 for us against NW B team..... we scored all 4 in the game including a smashing into each other defensive own goal!!! I felt we had moments of good soccer as did they in the game and then we had moments of own goal goodness...haha

Thanks for the game and you guys are definitely at least a league too low in the PDL possibly two.

I also could have sworn i saw the beautiful game team having a game after us.  VMS?

[Quiller]

Looks like (when I have the time) I need to update my top 20, big time.
Congrats to your team Squash.

[Squash]

Looks like (when I have the time) I need to update my top 20, big time.
Congrats to your team Squash.

It was good for us to not have the off weekend since we head to Vegas for the TurkeyShoot at Thanksgiving. My hope is to play you guys again before state cup comes around down the road I know PPFC wants to play too, so maybe some sort of round robin deal in a few months. Oh and the team is much improved for you guys over last year and that was great to see.

[Quiller]

BU 13 top 10

WPFC
Eastside FC
NWN Red
GRFC
ECFC
River City Steelers
Crossfire Black (I think they are going to beat the Timbers)
Columbia Timbers
Pacific Premier
Sun City Strikers

Looks like there is a big game this weekend in the State league.  River City vs. PPFC.

11 to 20 is a real crap shoot but here goes.

Das Gunners
Harbor FC
Federal Way Storm
HPFC Heat
Crossfire Squash
Westsound
FC Alliance Gold (have not seen them, just guessing)
NWN Blue (Yes I'm stubborn)
WPFC White
Whatcom Gold

Haven't seen a lot of the State league teams play other than Colibri during the summer and I think they may stack there team a bit for there summer tournaments and Pacific Premier.  There could be some outstanding team that I am leaving out and if so, sorry.

Leaving out Crossfire McCormick for this round since nobody need worry about them for a half a year.

[Lothar]

I think you're right about the Timbers/XFire match, I found out that the game is to be played at Peter S Ogden (vancouver) 3pm on 12/6.   

If your right and Timbers get relegated then this spring we'll see if your ranking holds true of the Timbers over the Gunners.

[Quiller]

You know I really like how the Timbers play.  They are a very team oriented squad, they just get overpowered by the other clubs in my opinion due to their lack of size.  It probably wouldn't be a bad thing if they went down to division 2(might hurt the ego of the parents but oh well).  Being in the same division as the Gunners means one less long trip for them also.

I wonder if any of the McCormick kids are going to be playing in that game for Crossfire.  You know just so they can get more reps :. 

Speaking of the player pass card, has anybody seen Sir Bobby Howe's article he penned on the ECFC website.  As Ned Pepper said to Rooster Cogburn in True Grit "bold words for a one eye fat man".  Not that Bobby is one eyed or anything might not even be fat just love the quote and always look for a chance to use it.  Anyway here is the link of said article.

http://emeraldcityfc.org/newsletter.php

[Black Bird]

We saw GRFC 95 play this season, it is an outstanding team, Div 1 watch out!!!!  I did some research on them. They were forced to play Div 2 because the GRFC club was new to the PDL - they belong in Div 1, so here they come.  They had either defeated every Div 1 team or performed better than every Div 1 team in the summer tournaments (including WPFC, EASTSIDE & NWN).  I heard they won 4 tournaments out of 6 played, no team has ever done that. The two losses was one with McCormick's team at Nike Challenge after both teams lost control of the game after McCormick called one of the GRFC player F_____(not so nice name) and another loss was at Rainier Challenge when the umpires took over the game in second half (GRFC was leading NWN by 2 goals when teh referee threw out 3 players and the coach), NWN with player advantage came back and won that game.  They took care of NWN at Pacific Challenge, which they won the championship. So no one has beaten them sqaure yet. 

They have to be placed higher than NWN, they have not played Eastside & WPFC head to head, but have won tournaments where these teams were eliminated.

It will be interesting to see GRFC and if McCormick can join Div 1, it will be the highlight of the talents for PDL.

[Quiller]

You know I actually considered putting them #1 but since they didn't play the competition that the others did during the fall season (not there fault) I opted to put them behind the other 3.

The first game against NWN Red was close to how you reported it but not quite.  GRFC was up 1 when the 2 kids were kicked out of the game.  That's there own fault.  One kid sucker punched a kid from the Nationals on a corner.  Just blindsided him and the other kid had two yellows (but it could been a lot more).  I've seen that kid play often and he is  the most aggressive and dirty player I've seen at that age group.  The coach was also kicked out but I don't know why, probably for sticking up for his players.

The 2nd time the two teams played it went to penalty kicks so very evenly matched teams.  I saw them handle ECFC without much difficulty.

I can't wait to see GRFC come into division 1.  It will amp up the intensity 3 fold.  GRFC vs. WPFC should be a heck of a game.

[littlebigdog]

I think GRFC will be a great addition to an already very competitive division.  However, I'd be very surprised if they extend their unbeaten streak.  Consider this... going into the 9th week of the Division 1 fall season EFC, WPFC and NWN were all tied for first place.  The season ended with the Nationals in 3rd place and EFC and WPFC tied for 1st.  The Nationals lost both games to WPFC by a score of 0-1 and split their games with EFC.  EFC and WPFC split games with each other.  Each of the top 3 teams had at least 2 losses - very good and competitive matches throughout.

GRFC will battle for one of the top 4 spots next season when they move up, and will be interesting to see how they do against EFC and WPFC - two teams they have not played yet as Black Bird noted.  The Nationals have played GRFC twice, as noted previously, and each team has one win a piece.  Good stuff!

[Squash]

I do not want to take anything away from GRFC, so let's get that straight before you read my next sentence. BlackBird...... two players and a coach do not get tossed without reason. It's better to just admit that GRFC plays a tougher/aggressive style defensively. Good for them, but if it crosses the line in a game here or there then cards happen.

I personally have no issue with aggressive play and I think GRFC deserves to be in the top division based on how they played. I think that's awesome.

[applecup2008]

I really enjoy listening to parents comments on this website. 

I really don't think that GRFC is no better than the rest of the Div 1 teams. 

The WPFC team changed coaches and style of play from last year.  They have been getting better and better every week.  You haven't seen the best of this team yet.

[Black Bird]

I do not justify or condon GRFC style of play, each team is different, anyone that has played serious soccer will admit it. EPL is considered dirty compared to La Liga! In regards to cards given at the games that is a different story, I have been associated with youth soccer in WA for over 10 years, quality of referring is much to be desired. Let's admit it, referring is at least couple of steps behind the player development.  Obviuosly as parents you are all motivated to support your team and that is understandable. 

I can only go with facts when these team played head to head or in same tournaments.  WPFC was eliminated in Starfire Classic - GRFC won the championship and beat the team that beat WPFC.  Eastside was eliminated in Pacific Cup - GRFC won the championship and beat the team that beat Eastside.  I am not sure if WPFC or Eastside won any tournaments, I may be wrong.

Like I mentioned they beat all Div 1 teams head to head, excpet WPFC & Eastside - so I fail to understand how they can not be better than most Div 1 teams???  I will let the GRFC team do the talking!

[Squash]

I do not justify or condon GRFC style of play, each team is different, anyone that has played serious soccer will admit it. EPL is considered dirty compared to La Liga! In regards to cards given at the games that is a different story, I have been associated with youth soccer in WA for over 10 years, quality of referring is much to be desired. Let's admit it, referring is at least couple of steps behind the player development.  Obviuosly as parents you are all motivated to support your team and that is understandable. 

I can only go with facts when these team played head to head or in same tournaments.  WPFC was eliminated in Starfire Classic - GRFC won the championship and beat the team that beat WPFC.  Eastside was eliminated in Pacific Cup - GRFC won the championship and beat the team that beat Eastside.  I am not sure if WPFC or Eastside won any tournaments, I may be wrong.

Like I mentioned they beat all Div 1 teams head to head, excpet WPFC & Eastside - so I fail to understand how they can not be better than most Div 1 teams???  I will let the GRFC team do the talking!

I would actually like to see them do well. I like the smaller club doing great.

[littlebigdog]

In regards to Black Bird's last posting, looks like WPFC and NWN each have tournament wins this season, but not sure about EFC.  I do know that EFC made it to the US Soccer Regional Cup final in Boise and lost to a CA North team.  The NWN and WPFC were also in that tournament, and played each other to a 2-2 draw.

The tournament that WPFC won was the Rainier Cup, which GRFC participated in.  If I go with Black Bird's logic about a team being better than another team even if they have not met head to head in tournament play, then it looks like WPFC would beat GRFC.  Here's why - WPFC played ECFC in the final and beat ECFC to take the championship.  Earlier in the tournament GRFC played ECFC to a 2-2 draw. so if I follow Black Bird's logic that would mean that WPFC beats GRFC. 

With that said however, that line of reasoning is not something I believe in.  I believe that in most cases, any team competing in that first division can beat any other team on any given day, and that includes ECFC who beat WPFC 4-1 in regular league play.  Throwing GRFC into that mix will definitely make the division more competitive. I think it's great to have that type of parity within a division and that level of competition can only make the players better.

[hammerfan]

Thanks Quiller for recognizing there is good football outside the PDL , I hope your midfield gets better soon. You called
the game of the week, River city at Pacific Premier. Hard fought game between two quality teams, Pacific scored early
and never looked back. Final 3-2 PPFC. River city takes first in league due to goals allowed.

[Black Bird]

WPFC won Rainer Challenge and McCormick won Nike....emmmm!  Home field advantage?

I agree BU13 PDL Div 1 will be a exciting!  I look forward to following these teams though I am not assocated with them.  Good competition is great for WSYSA.

[Quiller]

Thanks Hammerfan concerning our midfield.  They are all back now and ready to play just in time for the December break.  Fortunately the boys have a couple of friendlies lined up.  Both the kids who had broken collarbones are back and the other center mid is back from various scheduling conflicts.  Hopefully the boys will get back to where they were playing in the summer.

I have a lot of respect for PPFC and their players.  They play aggressively yet cleanly exactly the way it should be.  The top State league teams are of B divison quality in the PDL.  I'm surprised Colibri didn't fare better.  Shows the quality of the league.  I hope a lot of these teams challenge themselves and play in the State Cup.  I like it when the smaller clubs show they belong with the bigger clubs.  Case in point the LVR Strikers did pretty well for themselves the last couple of years playing in the top tournaments.
PPFC did well last year as well.  There is a lot of great soccer in this State and fortunately it's not all in the PDL.

[Quiller]

Big game this weekend Timbers vs. Crossfire Black.  I'm sure the other teams that are going to be staying in the 1st division are hoping for a Crossfire victory to save that long drive down South .   Should be a very good game.  Crossfire had been playing much better lately so we'll see if the break has taken any steam out of their momentum.

This game probably determines who gets relegated for the Spring (winter) season.

Good luck to both teams